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in washington on the so-called fiscal cliff. president obama plans to enter questions from business members. the group has been urging action to prevent huge automatic tax increases in january. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. [video clip] >> we have not coordinated care. all these services have so many cracks that the cracks are as harmful as the diseases that we're treating. you have to step back and ask, are we hurting people overall? what are we doing? now we have the report saying 30% of everything we do not be necessary in health care. 30% of medications we subscribe, the test and procedures we order. this is something for the first time been called out as a problem. >> this function in the health- care industry. what hospitals will not tell you. urday night at 10:00 p.m. on c-span2. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we have been focusing on different aspects of the fiscal cliff. we want to look at capital gains tax and the estate tax. what is the estate tax? guest: it goes back to history -- it was put in place to prevent the united states from developin
and president obama are battling the air war right now. this is all about rejoiner to what i call the president's tour of 2012. the president making an announcement at business round table, meeting with ceos who voted for romney, showing he's bipartisan. john boehner now making the fairness argument? it's a shocking turn of events but a testament to the fact that the republicans know optics are not in their favor. >> here's where it looks like it's heading. republicans float i think a face-saver in the new york times. quote f no deal can be struck to avoter the bush era tax cuts and onset of deep across the board spending cuts gop leadership could foresee taking up and passing legislation this month to extend the tax cuts for the middle class and then resume the bitter fight over spending and taxes as the nation approaches the next hard deadline and statutory barring. that's the debt ceiling coming up later this year, early part of next year. here's the question right now, govern governor. it seems that's a face saver because they say taxes deferred or delayed are taxes avoided. if they say we'
for higher income americans, but next year, everybody's rates have gone up, and then we're in the business of negotiating a tax cut, and president obama gets to negotiate a tax cut with republicans, a lot more fun and easier to do than tax increases. i don't know they get more leverage in the new year with the possible exception that the fact that, you know, the debt ceiling will loom again, hitting that debt ceiling giving republicans some leverage down the road, but in the short term, you're right, the leverage goes more to president obama right now. >> i have fiscal cliff fatigue. thank you very much. >> sure. tracy: we all do, dennis, but we have to talk about it because congress has to deal with it. we have a new gallup poll showing 5 # 4% of the voters rate the honesty of members of congress below that of used car salesmen. dianne black of tennessee joins us from the home state to hear what the constituents are telling her. what are con constituents sayin? >> well, you know, i'm hearing -oth from my individual constituents and business owners they are really concerned about the spend
business owners. i'm talking -- i'm taking last word on that sam. >> greta: thank you, sir. >> coming up president obama and john boehner both talking fiscal cliff. are they talking to each other? is anyone in washington talking to each other? our panel is here to talk about that next. >> one of our favorite videos of the year. back of the police car. he's back. you have to see what he has done now. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ those little things still get you. for you, life's about her. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for ily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. si
were busy building the seating used in president obama's next inaugur inaugural, romney slipped out a side entrance of the white house leaving the capital's focus squarely on the man who won. as for that incident that occurred as romney arrived at the white house, the secret service did arrest a man for assault of a police officer. a spokesman says he was combative with uniform secret service agents and interfered with mitt romney's vehicle entering the white house. and i did talk to, well, just very briefly with one romney aide saying can you give us some color, a read out, you know what he forwarded me? the white house statement which can be translated as call me maybe. >> one line did jump out at me from that white house statement. they pledged to stay in touch particularly if opportunities to work together on shared interests arise in the future. that's a pretty hopeful sign. >> that does leave the door open in the event that mitt romney wants to work with the president or the president wants mitt romney to work with him on some of these fiscal issues. and as the president has n
it off the table. >> now later this morning, president obama will be speaking and taking questions at the business round table meeting, a white house official saying that the president will make the case that middle-class americans need certainty that their taxes will not go up at the end of the year. he will also make the case that this fiscal cliff will have a negative impact on the overall economy and he will push these business leaders to support his approach. soledad? >> dan lothian, in washington, d.c., for us, thank you. >>> just a few minutes we'll be chatting with stephanie cutter, the woman who helped manage president obama's re-election campaign. we'll talk more about the fiscal cliff. >>> first a look at other stories that are making news today. zoraida has that for us. >> good morning to you. the death toll in the philippines is rising this morning. typhoon bopha moving toward beach resorts in the northern part of the country and right now it is packing winds over 90 miles an hour. that storm has already caused massive flooding and landslides in the southern philippine
obama speaking by phone, but no announcement of any upcoming face to face budget talks. earlier the president told the business round table that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff could be reached quickly if republicans drop their opposition to raising tax rates on the wealthy. and in an interview on cnbc, timothy geithner says the gop is making a little bit of practice, but the white house is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if tax rates on the top 2% don't rise. >> our obligation is first do no harl. we need to lift that threat over the economy. and now as part of that, we'd like to put in place as i said a carefully designed mix of reforms to put our fiscal balance in the path of sustainability. as long as there is recognition by the other side that those rates will go up, we think we can reach an agreement on the set of reforms as i said that will be good for the economy. >> republicans were quick to hit back. orrin hatch called them stunning and irresponsible, but there may be more cracks in the ranks. "washington post" reports some moderate and conservative republicans
obama have already taken us over the cliff. if you meet with businesses like i do all the time, they've already paired back plans for next year anticipating what's going to happen. we can fix this christmas eve if we want, but we've already hurt the economy and job growth. >> are you with boehner? >> i'm not with boehner. this government doesn't need anymore money. this country needs less government. we're going to have historic levels of revenue to the government this year. >> everyone's taxes are going up at the end of the year if there's no deal. >> we have already offered to extend current tax rates. that's what we should have done six months ago until we could come to some agreement, some compromise on tax reform. >> when you say compromise, where are you ready to compromise as far as taxes are concerned? >> how we go about tax reform, there's a lot of room to work together to lower the rates. >> give me an example? >> i'm not sure where the democrats are because they have not offered a plan. >> their plan is to keep the bush tax rates from 2001, 2003 forever. make them pe
and participate in our first panel, business creating a healthy safe and inclusive environment for all school students, the role of our federal government. tom perez, assistant secretary for civil rights, ruslyn lee. she was also nominated by president obama to serve in her role as assistant secretary of education for civil rights and she was confirmed by the senate in may of 2009. as assistant secretary, ruslyn is assistant secretary arnie's duncan's primary advisor. before she joined the department of education she was vice president of the education trust in washington, dc and was the founding executive of education trust west in oakland. in these positions she advocated for public school students in california, focusing on achievement and opportunity gaps, improving can urriculum and instructional quality and ensuring quality education for everybody. she served as an advisor on education issues on a number of private ipbs institutions, she is a teacher, a lawyer, and a very influential voice on all policy matters. she was also passionate about ending this issue of bullying and bri
would say if you have these point of views in a business context, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> among our guests this morning, we have ron johnson. at the white house today, president obama will host mitt romney for a private lunch. it's their first meeting since the election. and this his victory speech, obama promised to engage with romney and consider his ideas. >> a lot of people didn't think the lunch would ever happen. >> interesting if he's going to be talking about ideas, mitt romney's idea had been to reach some sort of a cap on it 00 mem deductions. >> he would have just extended the bush tax cuts and then the other stuff would have been -- but if romney had been elected, whether bad long term to extend them, that's one thing, but he would have extended -- this is a weird argument to be having to have everything hinging on on the 2% that are -- suddenly as i've said before, suddenly everybody loves the bush tax cuts. so weird. >> flips the tables on who likes what. >> it all goes back to the line in the band. obama first time around caved and his base never for gav
and put businesses in a further hole. president barack obama, august, 2009. he was absolutely right then. those facts hold true today. it's not just those facts hold true over a small period of time, mr. speaker. those facts hold true over a decade. john kennedy's quotes, president john f. kennedy, i just want to take you back, mr. speaker, it's not as if these are new ideas we are talking about. this isn't some rocket science problem that's suddenly been thrust upon the united states of america in 2012. these are basic economics. adam smith talked about these years ago. this is in one of john f. kennedy's news conference in 1962 as he was providing the largest tax cut in modern american history he said this, he said it's a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low. that's where we are today, mr. speaker. tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low. it's a paradoxical truth that can be true. he goes on. he says the soundest way to raise revenues, that's exactly what we are trying to do when we talk about balanced approach. we need to cut spending.
in the new business. >>> haven't talked much about glenn beck since he left fox news. look what we have been missing. he cooked a barack obama doll in a jar of fake urine. not making it up. he was making a point about extreme art. what about respect for the presidency, stay classy, glen. >>> google had acquired a wi-fi provider named icoa for $400 million. the source, a press release. the story? a fabrication. icoa is investigating that hoax. the fake release was posted on pr web and some news outlets thought it was good enough to report without so much as phone call or e-mail to confirm it was the real deal. >>> the media over in the people's republic may be humor impaired. they ran a 55 page photo spread on kim jong-un chosen as sexiest guy alive. with his devastatingly handsome round face his boyish charm and his strong sturdy frame, this pie on yang bred hard throb is every woman's dream come true. >>> in the cynical media age, i was delighted to run into lawrence depreef oh, the police officer that didn't know a tourist was shooting a cell phone picture of him as he helped a homeless ma
was speaking up, speaking up, speaking up. at that point in protest against president obama's 2010 proposed tax deals compromise with the congressional republicans. technically, it wasn't an actual filibuster because he wasn't preventing republicans from speaking and doing business. he did go on for 8 hours and 37 minutes. no words on whether he used the sauna to dehydrate himself. i remember bernie sanders doing this and my twitter feed going nuts with enthusiasm after two years of saying we should get rid of the filibuster. then it was like go bernie, go bernie, go. i thought, we like it when it's our guy doing it. >> that's where we get the distinction. when i say filibuster, i'm knot talking about holding the floor. that's great. he had eight hours to get his point across. now the filibuster is i'm going to send an e-mail to mr. mcconnell, it's going to take 60 now. then you don't have that debate. you block it at the outset. we don't have that discussion. >> so it's changed. >> is that the reform that matters? i want to point out, there was another time when progressives got excited. that
years is say no, no, no to any kind of -- and obama has tried to push through bills to cut taxes for job creators, fo. host: for small businesses? caller: yes, for small businesses. host: here is reaction from senator lindsey gramm. he says this -- a republican from new jersey, go ahead. caller: i am calling in reference to this fiscal cliff. at this point, all the seniors are already in trouble. they are not going to get but a little increase. congress will automatically get a raise. theys hould stop that. they don't need the money anymore. they have plenty. obama is going to have his way, and that's it. host: can you hang on the line? let me get your reaction from larry duncan on twitter who says -- what do you think, margaret? caller: i think that is correct. there are a lot of loopholes but they do not want to do this. they are happy because they are getting this extra money. if obama gets -- i don't have a charge card. i am paying off all my debt. we should pay off all large debt. how much are we paying for this debt that we go? that is a waste. why should anyone else do it? congres
of business. >>> here is what is passing for progress to avoid the fiscal cliff at year's end. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke about it on the phone with one another. that discussion came as treasury secretary tim geithner confirmed mr. obama is prepared to take the economy over the cliff unless republicans agree to raise tax rates on the wealthy. >>> meantime in georgia, some activists expressed frustration about the stalemate in holiday spirit. they delivered symbolic lumps of kill to the offices of both of their state's u.s. senators. security guard met them, at chambliss' office. a few were let inside without the camera and media present. of course. that would have been the real story. >> folks are upset now. see what happens january 1 after you get the first paycheck and go, oh, this is what the fiscal cliff meant. yeah. 2013. the next story involves a new grassroots campaign that is starting. meant to draw attention to the nation's debt crisis. it is our "favorite story of the day." the campaign is called -- "the can kicks back." aimed at young people and features fo
of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in a business context as close as they are, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> ford chairman bill ford junior agrees with blankfein saying he's confident the obama administration can reach a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. but speaking with reporters in bangkok, he says the automaker is prepared for any outcome. cnbc has learned the completion of the so-called volcker rule is being delayed until the end of the first quarter of next year instead of the end of this year. the rule which is named for paul volcker bans banks from proprietary trading. but it's proven difficult for u.s. regulators to define and high volume of feedback has led to push back, repeated push back, of that deadline. mervyn king will release financial stability report today. there's been speculation in the report that king will raise capital requirements for banks and introduce new banking regulations. for our uk viewers, we'll bring you live coverage of the bank of england's report in just over an hour. for thousannow, chris
most like the rest of the country and has now twice voted for barack obama. how extreme is cuccinelli? he supports personhood, the moment after conception the fetus or unborn child has the rights of life, liberty, and property and that gets serious business. his own website uses the harsh language on immigration. ken is committed to solutions that remove the economic incentives that encourage illegal immigration, illegal aliens who choose to break additional laws by stealing identities, dealing drugs, joining criminal gangs, driving without a license, or committing fraud must receive prompt justice and deportation. no ifs, ands, or buts. i'd say that was clear. he also -- he altered the virginia state seal for modesty. notice that woman is a bit more french than her display, but he says he wanted to make sure that bare breast was removed from the goddess of virtue. small point. when cuccinelli had lapel pins made, the goddess' breast was covered. small point. he discussed concerns about getting a social security number for a soon to be born child. he was wondering whether he should ge
of our nice weather. president obama is speaking to a couple of groups, today, the 2012 tribal nations conference of the department of the interior. first off, he will answer questions from members of the business round table, amid a debate over the fiscal cliff. the group is urging congress to take immediate action to avoid those automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january. president obama is saying that with the way speaker boehner plan stands now, no deal. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal is out of balance. we will have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we are not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> that was an exclusive with bloomberg t.v. and the first televised interview since the president's re-election. as you heard, taxes are the big issue blocking this deal from taking place. president obama is calling for downhill the amount of tax revenue as speaker boehner over the next tens years, most from the nation's top earners. many. republicans say that's not the way to handle this. here is marco rubio. >> it woul
from the white house was let's fix this problem by incorporating a small businesses and less government intervention to curb the deficit. it has been astronomical. then i heard barack obama say the way we are going to do it is by making more cuts in various ways. he was saying by making more cuts and the only people it is going to hurt is the working class and somewhat of the middle-class. he should mention the fact that out of control spending has a lot to do with the credit card crunch. specifically because of the middle-class. i think if we get those tax cuts centered with them, i do not think the poll would be affected. you have these small companies that are developing, and he is saying have those small companies hire more people and get them involved, but come consumer expenditures. that is partially i think a solution. host: you are calling on the republican line and you think hillary clinton would make a good candidate. would you vote for her in 2016? caller: i think she would be a very vital aspect to the political process. as far as her running for president, 2016 -- god knows
that create jobs, they are in the 2% of small businesses. they would pay higher rates that president obama is proposing. it would be a direct hit on job creation. and over and talk about raising tax rates at the top, it is not because we are worried about whether the rich can buy an extra vote. we are worried about their ability to invest in the economy. host: let's hear from mary in topeka, kansas. caller: i had a couple of comments. and then maybe let them answer. one, a republican, but i guess i'm not a very loyal one because at this point, between the republicans and the democrats, i am totally fed up with what comes across on the national news. both sides seem to be spinning the truth into lies for their own political gain. we need a solution that is not 25 years away. but i do not know how it is going to be done when the president -- and as far as i can see, he has not even sat down for a talk that lasts more than an hour or so. he has other people doing is talking and expects the republicans to try to make a deal. you cannot make a deal with a third party and then have a first party
a letter urging speaker boehner to take the last hexit before the cliff. neither president obama nor democrats in congress have ever been ambiguous about our proposal to provide economic security for 98% of american families and 97% of small businesses while asking the wealthiest 2% to contribute just a little more to stop this runaway debt. and now that even a dyed in the wool conservative like senator coburn of oklahoma has endorsed the democratic approach, here's what he said, "i know we have to raise revenue. i would rather see the rates go up," he said. he's been heavily involved in everything that's happened in the last several years in washington dealing with debt. when he joins in, that's really significant. it is apparent how this will end. the only question is, when will it end? it's how long will speaker boehner make middle-class families wait for relief and how long will he force the financial markets to wait for u un-- wait for certainty? the longer he delays, the greater i think ris the risk to. so i urge him, don't listen to me, listen to your own caucus. listen to pru
and neither side seems any closer to coming to a deal. this morning president obama is going to talk to members of the washington business round table. house speaker john boehner and congressional leaders will meet with small business owners on the hill. talking to everybody else doesn't look like they're talking to each other. they're not reaching across the aisle here. my next guest says that most politicians don't want to go over the cliff but some partisans might derail the discussions. there is a danger ahead, a growing core russ on both sides who insist there's no reason to fear going over the fiscal cliff y if if the cliff exists at all. call them cliff deniers. leading directly to the loss of america's aaa credit rating. listening to them again would be the definition of insanity. john who has a ph.d. in instaneny co-author of "deadline artists." i was in d.c. this week and struck by there is one track going on of negotiations, the track you're seeing on television. not the smoke filled back rooms at this point. they're not there yet. usually i complain about the deals happen
people who have some diplomatic experience or business experience to know how to operate in the world. melissa: or who are friendly. i don't know. >> president obama has done the slightly more than others. forty of his 59 ambassadorial appointments have been to top donors. that has to get arraigned in. melissa: and may have to stumble on. i know. i was trying to make a joke. more politics. this time the future mayor of new york has been encouraging hillary clinton to run for his office in 2011. the mayor thinks the big gamble with think she is a perfect fit. clinton said she is not interested in the job. first of all, is it a step up? endo mayor of new york is a big deal. >> they do say the standard line is that the second most important difficult job in the country is the mayor f new york city. that may or may not be true. hillary clinton would consider this. step down. >> is too mall a stage for her. she's been on the global stage. >> only one person will convince hillary clinton to go back into the public world. that is her husband, bill clinton. and i am on the side that says i
, on the margin, these people may not lose their businesses, but they will have to let people go. that's an economic reality that democrats tell me, republicans tell me, obama supporters tell me, romney supporters tell me. if you're running a small business on the margins. these tax increases, these regulatory increases, they do matter in the real world out there. maybe not at coca-cola or comcast or deloitte, but they certainly do on main street. you would agree to that, right, donny? >> based on a half million. there's a huge difference between 250,000 and 500,000. >> donny, and you i agree on that 100%. if i were still in congress, i would say, listen, i will negotiate on anything, but i am not going to raise taxes in this police climate on people making $250,000. you want to talk about $500,000? great. let's talk about it. $250,000 is a nonstarter for small business owners. in my opinion. hey, chuck, thank you so much for being with us. >> reporter: all right, brother. >> we'll see you on "the daily rundown" right after the show. joe, thank you for being with us, and more important
the president's trip push back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign style video. >> this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> this political fight is over policy, but if you weren't paying attention, you'd swear the presidential election was still going on. while the fiscal cliff battle plays out, campaign politics marches on. >> i want to help create a better united states. >> we're less than a month removed from the 2012 election, but former south dakota governor mike rounds is already looking ahead to 2014, announcing a bid for the sfath. >> i'll be out visiting in a lot of communities around south dakota. >> and he was the second republican to do that this past week. joining congresswoman shelly moore of west virginia. while 2014 is a long way away, 2013 is just over the horizon. that's when new jersey's chris christie is up for re-election and the tough-talking republican governor's making clear he wants another term in office to help his state recover from superstorm sandy. >> i don't wan
. >>> later today president obama meets with two very different groups about that fiscal cliff crisis. first the president will speak to and answer questions from members of the business round table. this is an association of chief executive officers of top u.s. companies. later in the day the president will address a conference of native american triable leaders. both groups are concerned about automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in on january 1st if congress does not act. >>> coming up at 6:15 the uphill battle facing this man republican house speaker john boehner within his own party. as he tries to negotiate a deal do avoid that fiscal cliff. >>> time now is 6:08. let's check in with tara. what are you keeping an eye on? >> in san francisco we have issues actually with some backup. spinout near hospital suffer on 101 southbound and there are several cars that are in the fast lane and definitely having an impact on traffic. right now let's take a look at our maps. we can show you where we have other accidents brewing here. 280 northbound. and then we have flooding in the
nancy pelosi followed by president obama's comments. the house of representatives has finished their business for the week. they looked ahead to how negotiations on the fiscal cliff might affect the house schedule. this is half an hour. hank the gentleman. i yield to the majority leader. mr. cantor: i thank the gentleman, mr. speaker. on monday, no votes are expected in the house. on tuesday the house will meet at noon for morning hour and 2:00 p.m. for legislative business. votes will be postponed until 6:30 p.m. on wednesday the house will meet at 10:00 a.m. for morning hour and noon for legislative business. on thursday the house will meet at 9:00 a.m. for legislative business. last votes of the week are expected no later than 3:00 p.m. on thursday. members are advised that this is a change from the original house calendar. mr. speaker, the house will consider a number of bills under suspension of the rules, a complete list of which will be announced by the close of business friday. additionally the house will appoint conferees for the national defense authorization act now
president obama is exactly correct. now i would also say this upper income people, their business will be better if that sacrifices first at the upper level and not by taking away social security and medicare benefits that reduce demand in a society for other goods and services. there is an economic argument that i think is beginning to see more, which is essentially what the caller did, that a healthy middle class with consumer demand from a healthy middle-class is what is needed for a healthy economy and therefore benefits all. >> host: kathleen pender writes in the chronicle that there is a silver lining when it comes to the amt. what is less known is the amt has a silver lining. assuming congress passes a patch, people in amt and stay in amt will be protected from an increase in regular income tax rates that the bush era tax cuts expire. that's because they will be paying a top amt rate of 20% come at you at the top regular rate is at 30.6%. this will be true for everyone in amt. people who fall out of the amt could see their taxes go up. >> guest: i would agree, however, i gu
obama is taking his fight over the fiscal cliff today heading to hatfield, pennsylvania. he is going to tour the rhodon group manufacturing facility. >> that's a place the white house says is one of the many businesses that depends upon middle class shoppers this holiday season. rhodon manufactures connect brand. that time group sells toys like angry birds building sets and tinker toys. at the end of the year, as i am sure you know by now the average middle class family is facing a 2,000 dollar tax hike. on monday of this week the white house released a report saying that could be americans spending $200,000,000,000 less in 2013. the president will continue to push his message but is it time to reach a deal over the fiscal cliff? but the g.o.p. is not so keen on a deal, at least the one the white house presented yesterday. the first offer from president obama and treasury secretary timothy geithner included a $1.6 trillion tax increase along with an extension of the payroll answer it cut and unemployment insurance and a request for $50,000,000,000 worth
to breaking point with these additional obligations. i do not think that president obama and the people who are advising him really have their finger on the polls of what it will mean for small business owners. that's what concerns me. people like us have been able to cope and still have been able to save and to send our children to college. that is close to going away and this is one of my great concerns. guest: one of the untold parts of the story and sometimes we overlook what is happening in the states. they're raising state and local taxes to solve their deficit problems. something to keep in mind when we talk about these detention caps. you could be pushed up against a deduction if you live in new york. if you live in new york and have high state and local taxes, if congress moves forward with a deduction cap, you could go right up to that cap. host: 24% of those were claiming the earned income tax credits. 13% climb in the child tax credit. these credits, you can use them simultaneously. guest: some of these are refundable which means you get money back even if your tax bill is zero.
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of town for a long weekend break. fox business network's rich edson is live from washington. so are we seeing any movement in these talks at all, rich? >> some, jon. a house aide says president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on the phone yesterday afternoon. that is their first conversation in a week and since republicans offered $800 billion in new tax revenue and more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts. aides refuse to say if the president and speaker are now closer to a deal. for both sides a little more campaigning. president obama heads to northern virginia this afternoon. the white house says he will meet with a middle class family to press congress to protect those making less than $250,000 a year from tax increases and raise rates on those making more. house republicans return to their congressional districts. they will meet with small business owners to underscore how they say tax rate increases will hit those business, jon. jon: are they still hung up on taxes? is that the big sticking point? >> yes. taxes are the key to this debate. republicans say they wil
-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. >> it's a pretty flat market, despite the news of president obama's i'm going to call it slap in the face to the republicans on the fiscal cliff. check the price of oil. 88 a barrel, up a little. lisp to this, we've got a huge drop in the birth rate in the united states. the recession may be to blame. 64 births per 1,000 women of chile baring age, 15-44 in 2010. that's about half of what it was in the peak of the baby boom 1957. the birth rate is way down. liz macdonald and gerri willis are here on this subject. do you have any idea what's going on here? >> well, two sides could help explain that. first of all, mexico, for example, is doing better than it has been, fewer immigrants coming from mexico. there's a draw there right now going on in that country and here is the other thing, in this recession, two things that typically don't get hit as typically they got hit this time around. housing construction where immigrants work and farms where
small businesses. econill hurt our economy. approach.y this is not the right r: toach. anythis impasse is one of many geithnerreasury secretary tim geithner, mr. obama's lead with t negotiator, will have meetings e bowlesth top congressional thisrs. othpson bowles met with all the ue.yers at both ends of 'mnnsylvania avenue. >> i'm not more optimistic or less optimistic. puthopeful but don't put me e nearnywhere near the optimistic category. tove got a long way to go and a likefew days to get it done. >> lindsey graham from south carolina have offered to break a revenueax increase pledge and ntise revenue as part of a deal but graham now is pulling back until the president offers ntitlement reform. a i've not seen one deal from country downouse that deal with medicare, medicaid and social security which are all going to fail and take this country down the road of grief. and until i hear something from the white house on that, i'm not going to say another thing on revenue. >> mr. obama will meet with his v vanquished republican rival, mitt romney. it's been several weeks, after all, sin
people n if it affects the economy, it facts everyone. and those people are small businesses. those people then it goes down to the employees and it slows our economy and this is not a time to be doing that. this is why president obama extend the tax rates for a year action because he said this could hurt the economy. here we are again. we're not anywhere different than we were last year really. >> gregg: donna, dick durbin, the senate's number two democrat, said that social security is off the table because i'm going to quote him here -- it does not add a penny to our deficit. that's ludicrus. >> i think that i'm unable to comment because i think the context may have something to do with the sense of lock box and where this money actually comes from and where it sits in the meanwhile before it gets spent. but i also think it's awfully important to remember that in terms of republican cooperation, the president really has been i think very sincere about seeking that cooperation and initially speaker boehner i think expressed with great sincerity his interest in cooperation. i dare s
. welcome back. it's 24 minutes past the hour. christine is minding our business. >> yes, stock markets around the world are up this morning after comments made yesterday by president obama and the house speaker, john boehner, both expressing optimism on those fiscal cliff negotiations in washington. the dow rallied 100 points yesterday off of those comments. how many times have you heard me say congress will mess it up. >>> goldman sachs ceo met with the president and others yesterday for those fiscal cliff talks. listen to what he told wolf blitzer when asked if taxes should be raised on those making more than $250,000 a year. if that's what it takes to make the math work when you look at entitlement side and revenue side, i wouldn't preclude that. of course we would have to do that if the numbers drive that way. >> he said america can't afford itself right now the way we're going. fiscal cliff talks today continue with geithner making the rounds on capitol hill. later this morning, third quarter gdp expected to be revised higher. economists expect gdp for july to september to be revi
business. i am here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> based on the meeting with secretary geithner or your phone call with president obama 09 -- obama side, can you tell us something about that phone call? >> we had a very nice conversation last night. it was direct and straightforward. but the assessment i give you today would be a product of both of those conversations. >> how much would you be open to the idea of discretionary spending cuts as far as a down payment to get to a long-range solution on entitlements? >> there are a lot of options on the table, including that one. >> you are acknowledging that there will. >> the day after the election, i came here and i made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right, so my question is what message do you have for people who are in the negotiating position or believe that it is inevitable that you have to accept some compromise on taxes? >> revenue is on the table. but revenue was only on the tab
it would hurt my business. it is a leap. it is very bold and it would be a little bit of a transition period but president obama could have done it. i agree with congressman, it will be nice if people would talk about it, but with they're not even talk being entitlement reform. so they're not going to talk about taxes. >> brian: we're talk being you on "the five." i would not be surprised if some of those topics worked its way into the format. >> we missed you on "the five." we liked it when you were there to steer the conversation. >> brian: really? >> you're a very good leader. >> brian: thank you. you are a liar! >> steve: we'll be watching today. >> thanks. >> gretchen: coming up, leaks from inside the white house claim president obama is willing to take the nation over the fiscal cliff if he doesn't get his way with raising taxes on the rich. where does that leave republicans now with our entire economy potentially on the line? senator orrin hatch, known for reaching across the aisle joins us next. >> brian: then this brave auto zone employee saved his boss' life, taking down a v
:00 eastern here on c-span. and following that, today's events op the fiscal cliff with president obama and house speaker john boehner. the president said in remarks to the business round table today that he was aware of reports that republicans may be willing to agree to higher tax rates on the wealthy as a way to avert the looming fiscal cliff and then come back next year with more leverage to extract spending cuts from the white house in exchange for raising the government's borrowing limit. we'll also have house speaker john boehner's news conference today where he said it's time for the white house to respond to monday's republican proposal for avoiding the fiscal cliff. see the president and speaker boehner tonight at 9:00 eastern. elsewhere on the hill today the senate appropriations committee on homeland security held a hearing on fema's response to hurricane sandy. senators from new york, rhode island, connecticut and delaware testified before the committee on the challenges their constituents face in the aftermath of the storm and what's needed to move forward. >> good morning
to describe the people who want to continue with business as usual in washington. end quote. the senate by the way passed the bill months ago. now actually it goes on to president obama for his signature. >>> prince william's wife is out of the hospital three days after being admitted with severe case of morning sickness. katherine, the duchess of cambrid cambridge, leaving this morning with a small bouquet of yellow roses and royal officials say she is not yet 12 weeks pregnant. no word yet as far as any kind of due date for the baby. >>> possibility here of chemical weapons in syria. the defense secretary issues a warning to syria's president. we are on the story next. yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. then you may be looking for help in choosing the right plan for your needs. so don't wait. call now. whatever your health coverage needs, unitedhealthcare can help you find the right plan. open enrollment to choose your m
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the last couple of weeks. going over the fiscal cliff is serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> the white house says they are willing to do tough things to compromise, so now it's time for republicans in washington to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. >> asking for a political price be paid in order for congress to do its job to insure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible. it was deeply irresponsible in the summer of 2011 and it would be deeply irresponsible if we were to see that kind of approach taken again. >> today the president is going to take his case to the people of pennsylvania during a visit to hatfield and a road on group. it's the sole manufacturer of knex, which makes angry birds building sets. back to you. >> steve: all right. thank you very much. >> brian: it's unbelievable. the "washington post" says the offer la
consequences here, particularly in the economy, it's going to be in the obama era, things didn't get fixed. who is it? the australian finance minister who says the united states is one budget deal away from being a great country. there's a lot of people in business who think we are poised to do some really good things in the global economy, the united states is, but if we can't untangle this mess, it's not going to happen. >> you know about the inner workings in the government more than any living person, every single administration of our lifetime. you've been behind the scenes -- >> what nonsense you're talking. yes, all right. [laughter] >> are you now optimistic or pessimistic about the way that australian finance minister posed the question? >> you know, in the end, i think things will be fixed. the question is when and what price do you pay on ray road to getting them fixed? you know, i don't think you govern by playing chicken. i say that to democrats, republicans, the white house, the congress. you know, they should sit down and really talk this out and the old joe biden way when he dea
to be in the obama era things didn't get fixed. who is the australian finance minister who said the united states is one budget deal away from being a great country? there's a lot of people in business suits inc. we are poised to do some really good things in the global economy of the united states but if we can't untangle this mass, it's not going to happen. >> you more about the inner workings of our government than any living person. every single administration of our lifetime. you've been behind the scenes producing national security notes. >> what nonsense you are talking. >> are you now optimistic or pessimistic about the way the strong and finance minister posted questions? >> in the end, i think things will be fixed. the question is when and what price do you pay on the road to getting them fixed? you know, i don't think you govern by playing chicken. and i say that to democrats, republicans, the white house, the congress. they should sit down and really talk this out in the old joe biden way when he would do with mitch mcconnell just a couple years ago to extend the bush tax cut and the
their own small businesses and their own small farms or ranches. the very least, we should extend the current limits worked out in the 2010 compromise. president obama should not be holding up that commonsense solution just so that he can satisfy his left-base agenda for unrealistically insisting on raising tax rates. the other tax increase that is set to hit american families very hard very soon is the alternative minimum tax. you recall, mr. president, that that a.m.t. tax was created in 1969, and they did that when someone discovered that there were 155 people all across the country, only 155 people who actually had made a lot of money but they didn't pay any taxes on it. and we know why. it was because of various tax loopholes. congress could have done something to close those loopholes, but instead congress created a whole separate tax scheme. then to make matters worse, didn't index the income limits for inflation. so congress comes along every year and acts a patch to keep the tax from hitting the middle class. the problem is it still has done nothing to patch the a.m.t. fo
that move. >> jeszic ka, the things obviously could be getting more complex as you know, president obama wants to add the debt ceiling to the multiple issues already on the table. what are you hearing about that? >> well, this was something the president laid out in a speech this morning to the business roundtable. the debt limit and avoiding the debt limit fight is one piece of the deal that they are seeking. let me try to break it down for you and explain how the white house sees all of this come together. wolf? >> the president's latest move, he told ceo's the fiscal deal should include a permanent way to avoid future debt ceiling fights. >> the only thing that the debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> why is he adding the debt limit into this already complicated showdown over taxes and spending cuts? >> let's allow higher rates to go up -- >> we have to cut spending. >> the white house thinks of the fiscal cliff as a three-part problem. part one taxes. in the new year, taxes go up on everyone unless washington takes action. the government needs mor
cuts for two years and fundamental tax reform. there is pressure on obama to do corporate tax reform and he is willing to take corporate rates down but his plan is to increase the rates for the small businesses pay and in addition, as we are having this conversation, there are five tax increases that aren't being discussed. five obamacare tax increases that start january 1. it is on our web site, atr.org hundreds of billions of dollars start kicking in on january 1 thanks to obamacare. i think the correlation of forces between the two sides is different than obama sees. he said i won re-election and i get to do everything i want to do. he ran his car into the bridge five months and took his approval rating down below 50 and gave himself a republican house in 2010 because he ran and spent that money because he thought the american people signed off on it. and he ran out and overplayed his mandate. he is about to do the same thing again, not only with spending, but with taxes. and taxes are a stickier wicket than spending. the reaction by the small business community to his tax increas
. going over the fiscal cliff fiss serious business. i am here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> based on the meeting with secretary geithner or your phone call with president obama 09 -- obama side, can you tell us something about that phone call? >> we had a very nice conversation last night. it was direct and straightforward. but the assessment i give you today would be a product of both of those conversations. >> how much would you be open to the idea of discretionary spending cuts as far as a down payment to get to a long-range solution on entitlements? >> there are a lot of options on the table, including that one. >> [indiscernible] you are acknowledging that there will. >> the day after the election, i came here and i made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right, so my question is what message do you have for people who are in the negotiating position or believe that it is inevitable that you have to accept some compromise on taxes? >> r
to you, and the conversations will encompass not just leaders of congress, but business leaders and civic leaders and governors and others who have a stake in the process and the outcome of the negotiations, but as secretary geithner said over the weekend, as, i think, president obama conveyed in the interview today with bloomberg tv, he remains confident we can get this done. he remains optimistic that once republicans accept that there is no deal without an acknowledgement and acceptance that rates have to go up on higher end earners that, well, we can find a compromise here that resolves the fiscal cliff and takes a very important step towards the kind of broad balanced deficit reduction package that do enormous good to the economy. the kind of package i should not leave out with targeting investments so the economy continues to grow and create jobs. as i said on occasions, deficit reduction in and of itself is not a goal, but part of the plan that is focused on economic growth and job creation. president's very focused on that. jay? >> just a second ago, you referred to how the debt c
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